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Post by Willowishness on Jan 16, 2009 22:34:34 GMT -5
Hey kiddies! Have we got any clans with seriously inactive leaders? Or leaders who are about to die??
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Post by $~Swifty~$ on Jan 17, 2009 10:02:46 GMT -5
MysticClan.... mmmmmm.... VioletStar is gonna die relatively soon. She has 3 lives left I think something around there anyway
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Post by Willowishness on Jan 17, 2009 12:56:45 GMT -5
Can someone post a list here of who rps the leaders of each clan and who rps the deputies?
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Post by ~*Snowy*~ on Jan 17, 2009 14:56:05 GMT -5
CC: Leader: MothFlight/Burning(Joker) Deputy: LionMane: Stormish yes? MC: Leader: NightStar/Gentle Deputy:ShadowedStorm/Stormy NC: Leader: VioletStar/Swufter Deputy: JaggedStrike/Kitty SC: Leader: MinkStar/Misty Deputy: LightningStrike/Lucky FC: Leader: EverStar/Kitty Deputy: ShellShore/Twia There that should be it. Edited by Kitty
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Post by Willowishness on Jan 17, 2009 17:54:35 GMT -5
Does Kitty rp both LionMane and JaggedStrike? If yes, then she needs to have one step down. No one is allowed to have more than one leader or deputy at a time.
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Post by ~*Demon*~ on Jan 17, 2009 18:01:54 GMT -5
I do not Rp lionmane. and Jagged is going to die fairly soon..... so Everstar will lose her 1st life in a couple days
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Post by $~Swifty~$ on Jan 17, 2009 18:53:26 GMT -5
No LionMane is rped by Stormy
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Post by ~Stormy~ on Jan 17, 2009 18:59:58 GMT -5
Uhhh then I have a problem caz then I'd have two deputy positions...
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Post by ~*Demon*~ on Jan 17, 2009 21:56:27 GMT -5
we will fix this soon, Storm is going ot take over Mystic her ein a week or a few actually.. and already kind of is.. but I think we can make a slight allowance for now?
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Post by Willowishness on Jan 18, 2009 10:47:19 GMT -5
Look, the problem with a member having a clan leader and a clan deputy or two clan deputies is that somehow, they may come into having two leaders because the leader of the clan(s) they are deputy of end up dying or the member goes inactive or something. And it's not fair to all the regular members who have the ambition to become leader if someone rps leaders in two clans. So the deputy and deputy or leader and deputy thing is a no-no, even if you plan to kill one of the deputies or the leader of the clan the deputy is of plans to live for alot longer because you never know when someone will fall inactive and the deputy will be forced to become leader because of that.
So, yeah, you can control MysticClan, Alive, but you need to let go of your other deputy char by having him or her step down or die.
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Post by Burn on Jan 18, 2009 10:54:59 GMT -5
why cant she just keep her two deputies for a week then her mc deputy will become leader and Lionmane will stay deputy and then she won't have two deputies anymore she'll just have a leader and deputy....
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Post by ~*Demon*~ on Jan 18, 2009 12:36:36 GMT -5
yeah, but how many of us use each other for deputies all the time? how many of us HAD? I know its not really fair, but none of the new members relaly have cats that fill the bill yet.... and the rest of us are staff.
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Post by $~Swifty~$ on Jan 18, 2009 13:10:02 GMT -5
Plus I helped Burn with the decision on who can be deputy and no one else, but two of Storm's kitties are able too because Kitty already has several high positions... along with all the staff for that matter minus Lucky and Ember, who don't have cats in CelestialClan.. soooo... SOMEBODY is going to end up with more than one position... is my point
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Post by ~*Demon*~ on Jan 18, 2009 13:11:52 GMT -5
ya, and I have a leader, a deputy, a medicine cat, a rogue group leader, a plot group leader, and yeah...
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Post by Willowishness on Jan 18, 2009 14:04:18 GMT -5
Rogue leaders dont count. Its just clan leader and clan deputies i'm talking about.
We arent a really big site yet, not like Spirit Cats or The Scarlet Snowflake...
But if we dont have enough active members to staff for ten leadership clan positions, maybe we should break one of the clans appart.
I mean, I created the Fifth Clan because it seemed like a good idea; we had a ton of active members dogging for positions so i figured "why not?!". But now...
How about we have a disease strike the most inactive clan? We can have anyone who wants to keep their cat from that clan beg shelter in a nearby clan while their other clan burns out and the land becomes the territory of the bordering clans.
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Post by ~*Snowy*~ on Jan 18, 2009 14:09:10 GMT -5
MysticClan would be most inactive. DON"T KILL CELESTIALCLAN I stepped down because I knew I couldn't be active enough and I didn't want it to be inactive.
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Post by Willowishness on Jan 18, 2009 14:29:27 GMT -5
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Post by $~Swifty~$ on Jan 18, 2009 15:23:21 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of killing a clan...
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Post by ~Stormy~ on Jan 18, 2009 15:36:21 GMT -5
Yeah me neither... I love all these Clans and don't want any to die... we already took away the Faiths, why a Clan too?
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Post by $~Swifty~$ on Jan 18, 2009 17:47:49 GMT -5
It's not the fact that we don't have enough members, its more like we have plenty of htem, but none have cats that are ready to be deputy or are deputy material in the clan that needs a new hiearchy... and we have several active new members that just haven't had time to become a high position person... if you catch my drift.... sooo I vote against getting rid of any clan... plus if you get rid of the clan then... somebody is going to get kicked out of their position and another thing all the clans are relatively active, for the most part... I mean even MysticClan has picked up a bit...
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Post by Willowishness on Jan 18, 2009 23:55:14 GMT -5
You have to be realistic. A site with this level of activity cant keep five clans running. We have to get rid of one. Out of every four newbies, two dont stick around for more than a month and a half, and of the two left, one will want the position, get it, and be happy while the other will get the position, then decide that they'd rather quit the site than spend nights keeping the members of their clan happy. I've seen it happen over and over. So how many insanely active newbies do we have? We'd have to have about twelve to be able to count on two or three good potential staffers.
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Post by $~Swifty~$ on Jan 19, 2009 9:44:33 GMT -5
Fine, three possibly four for right now....
Well, why can't we have several high positions? I mean I haven't heard any one complaining about Kitty having as many high positions as she does. And once someone new comes along and is ready for a high position then the next time a position is open, which preferably would be soon, then they can have it..... but whatev.... I suppose... BogClan can't be gotten rid of because the cats in that clan were kicked out because they didn't like their heritage, so it would just be kinda stupid if all the BogClan cats show up at the door of the other clans to become members again.... catch my drift?
Oh... and I have a question that doesn't really pertain to this... When VioletStar dies and I'm no longer considered a leader or whatever, do I get demoted (for lack of a better word) to Helper?
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Post by Gentle on Jan 19, 2009 17:36:15 GMT -5
Um, to help Nightstar's going to die soon, and I'll just sort of lurk, or try to leave. Heh, I can't keep myself away from here very long, but I can't find it in me to become active. uh, I've been thinking of a plot to kill Nightstar anyhow, but I'm sure the next leader will be able to keep it active far better then I did.
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Post by Willowishness on Jan 19, 2009 22:33:32 GMT -5
One of the reasons why a single person cant rule two clans is that they'd have issues keeping them both active, taking care of them, and keeping the positions board updated while, at the same time, doing good in school and keeping up their social life. The other is that people like Snowy-One-Year-Ago complain that "OH GOD! Why in the world does IcyBreeze roleplay both the leader AND the deputy of CelestialClan?! It's just not fair! I wana be a leader too, but Icy's hogging all the positions!" Whoever doesnt remember the jealousy problems with the three to five month old members around this time last year has memory loss.
BogClan? Sure we can get rid of BogClan! The other four clans can get tired of having a fifth clan that worships AbyssClan and will mass together to drive them into Rogue and Gypsy terr, thus fixing our Gypsy and general Rogue inactivity! The fifth clan was never acceped by StarClan anyways.
When your leader Character dies, you still get to be an Influencial Group Leader, just from StarClan. Or AbyssClan.
Gentle? I can totally relate to that. I've been trying to leave for a year and a half now. XD It just doesnt work when you've put as much effort into the site as we have.
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Post by Fiddlesticks! on Jan 20, 2009 17:51:05 GMT -5
:X Errr, Misty I hope you don't plan on killing off Minkstar anytime soon, I can deal with being deputy for now of SC, but I am not very active atm to be leader >.<
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